Talk:Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun.

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If you think this should be redirected, you should make sure to include previous page material. -- Decumanus | Talk 20:01, 6 Apr 2004 (UT unbunbunbunbun

Calipers?[edit]

Why does have article have a link to a entry on "calipers"? What does that have to do with the slogan? I say the link should be deleted.

Loveshams 07:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why?[edit]

Why should Wikipedia have a page with a word that is so long that there is no need to memorize?? 66.245.127.108 20:02, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)


I'm not sure what your statement means. -- Decumanus | Talk 20:03, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Look at this word. It is way too long to memorize. Why can't we move this article?? 66.245.127.108 20:04, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Actually it is a phrase that most people in the U.S. in the 1970s could easily pronounce without a problem. -- Decumanus | Talk 20:05, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Is this because they put the spaces where they belong?? That's why we need spaces; without spaces, it can be very hard to reed groups of words. 66.245.127.108 20:06, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
It was not a written phrase, but an a television advertising campaign. It was spoken very quickly, as if one word. Arguably the entry could be with spaces, but the way it is written is closer to the way it was pronounced. -- Decumanus | Talk 20:09, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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The word is 71 letters long; had it not been made up for corporate promotion, or even etymologically consistent with most of the English language, it could be a candidate for the longest word in the English language.

The above clause doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the sentence ('had it not been even etymologically consistent with most of the English language'?) Ground 02:46, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Some groundrules[edit]

  1. This article's title is a trademarked name, and should remain one word, in all cases except for the part beginning "...a compound of the phrase..."
  2. This article deserves to remain seperate from McDonald's TV campaigns and slogans,
    1. as it is one of the few advertising campaigns (not mascots) that has become more than itself, in that American Greetings makes ordaments as a tribute to it.
    2. as we need more articles on the art of advertising; I'm in college for the subject, and Wikipedia lacks greatly.
  3. Leave the soft hyphens alone: they are necessary to allow the word to wrap properly in a smaller window.

If anyone takes issue, talk to me before deleting it again. -- user:zanimum

I added back the soft hyphens. --Phil | Talk 09:00, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

Um, this is not one word, it's a fifteen-word phrase. Misspelling it withhout the spaces does not make it a word. -(unsigned)

Is there any evidence that this way is a misspelling? Actually, I don't think the issue of how it's written is really related to the question of whether or not it's a word. Compound words in English are sometimes written with no boundary, sometimes with a hyphen, and sometimes with a space. "Parking garage" is considered to be a word by linguists, for example. Check any book on morphology. Factitious 02:47, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think there's a mistake here[edit]

I remember those records included with newspapers in the 1980s. But my memory was that the song on the record was a recitation of McDonalds' menu, not of the Big Mac ingredients. Can somebody confirm this? Maybe somebody has the record.

That is correct. The song on the record is the McDonald's Menu Song. I will fix this. Kafziel 15:26, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The song was..."Two all beef patties,special sauce, lettuce, cheese ,pickles on a sesame seed bu_un" So, how could it be the menu

This isn't a word[edit]

Check Google, the compound word version gets 200 hits while the sentence with words separated, commas gets over 30,000 hits. --Revolución (talk) 21:15, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sources-[edit]

The phrase is mentioned in this article!

http://www.foodsafetymagazine.com/issues/0602/feat03.htm

The Inmates Are Running This Asylum[edit]

I honestly care very little about this extended discussion that is taking place about the proper placement of an advertising slogan, but I must make one point. The aggregate number of hits that a particular phrase receives on Google does not speak to the validity of a word's usage. If 800 monkeys gave notarized statements that they wrote Shakespeare's plays, that doesn't mean they did. Good lord, what an asinine discussion. < who ever posted this actually read what everyone else wrote and decided to put them down?...okay buddy

Dates[edit]

Are we sure of the run dates for the jingle? I was born in 1972, and clearly remember hearing it on TV spots when I was st or 2nd grade (1979-1980) Devtrash 01:04, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 15:58, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move (see tag at top of page)[edit]

There is already some debate on this issue above. Let's put this issue to bed with consensus. It is my contention that the current name of this article has little utility, it being unlikely that someone would type into the search engine the 71 letter title, because the name does not follow the normal conventions of English, appears incongruous and silly to a native reader of English and because precedent shows that the punctuated name (Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun) is far more common through internet searches. When the name is cited in more serious sources, it appears in the punctuated form, see, for example, [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6] and [7]. Google returns 551 unique hits for the punctuated slogan (searched with quotes around it), [8], whereas the unpunctuated text returns 118 unique google hits. [9], a number of which are to Wikipedia and Wikipedia forks and mirrors. There is a stated rationale in a prior discussion above that the copyright of the name appears in the unpunctuated form. No evidence is provided and, in any event, I think the convention and use, rather than the company's copyright choice in 1975, should control. There is also some discussion that the slogan is intended to be read or sang quickly and the name should mirror the manner of articulation. If this were a good basis, then all manner of articles would need idiosyncratic spelling in order to conform to the manner their names are pronounced. There was some minor discussion of this move during the AFD debate--Fuhghettaboutit 23:19, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Survey[edit]

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
  • Very Strong Support per nom. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 00:02, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename to "Two all-beef patties..." (i.e. use ellipsis) ...?  More manageable (and redirect would take care of anyone entering entire slogan). David Kernow 01:47, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom, the current article title for the McDonalds advertising slogan aint a proper word. --Arnzy (Talk) 05:08, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Supportbecauseomygoodnessnooneisactuallyevergoingtotypethatallinalltogetherlikethatanditisimpossibletoread!Jonathunder 17:07, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Add any additional comments
  • No vote on this yet, but it seems to me we should find out how the slogan is referred to internally (i.e. by McDonalds executives and the ad agency). Surely there's a short official name for it. The long titles can stand as redirects. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 17:19, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

In the second line, the article says "Although shown here properly punctuated...", except it isn't. Having no verb, it shouldn't be followed by a full stop. --Andrew Ross-Parker 15:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

== Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles,onions,on a sesame seed bun == Ingredients of The Big Mac. Less than five second you would recieve a Mc Donalds tee shirt with the saying or a Big Mac for under ten second. It was a promotion back in the early 70's

The above phrase was used by McDonalds in England in the Seventies as part of a TV advertising campaign. If one were to recite this phrase at any McDonalds counter, in less than 10 seconds, a free Big Mac would be rewarded.There were local high score lists of the shortest times for saying the phrase - not sure if there was any "grand" prize. Sorry, no source for this reminiscence: just a dill-addled old brain. Snograt talk here 08:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This phrase, or word as some claim, was also paraphrased in the movie [Coming to America], where the main character's love interest's father operates a fast food restaurant called McDowell's. They server the same burger - except their buns do not have seeds. Reference: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094898/quotes 83.84.37.84 00:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's pretty obvious that this page DOES site sources and anyone who has a TV can affirm that. And also, these ARE the ingredients of a Big Mac. Note how there are no tomatoes mentioned in the ingredients. So, I'm going to take that banner off that says there are no sources. And I find it pathetic that two women didn't know the pledge of allegiance after saying in school everyday for 18 years. ForestAngel 19:06, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

90's version[edit]

There was definitely a version in the 90's that had Charles Barkley in it. Pretty sure it was in 1995. 65.197.19.242 18:20, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There was one in the early-mid '90s. Charles kept flubbing the words and at one point he says "cheesy beefy?" Unable to find video of this on youtube. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.124.4 (talk) 06:14, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]